It is probably impossible to resolve now, but did the Ancient Egyptians (AE) say peti or peter for ‘who’, ‘what’?
The fact that peter also was used for ‘see’ is probably just a coincidence of language. Its use for senses of vision is usually marked by an appropriate determinative suggesting ‘eye’.
We look at the ‘see’ examples first:
Table 1: peter: ‘see’
In this group the basic <stool bun mouth>
configuration provides the reading ptr: peter, and the vision determinative shows it is to do with seeing. The last two examples have no vision determinative.
configuration provides the reading ptr: peter, and the vision determinative shows it is to do with seeing. The last two examples have no vision determinative.
Table 2: who, what
In the ‘who / what’ interrogative pronoun group above, the determinative used is not vision but <SQUATTERMOUTH>
— once again except for the last two. Once again, too, in every case the basic <stool bun mouth> configuration provides the reading ptr: peter.
— once again except for the last two. Once again, too, in every case the basic <stool bun mouth> configuration provides the reading ptr: peter.
Table 3: peti
There is, however, another group for which the scholars give a different reading, although it might in reality have been the same. Here are the examples:
All of this group has the <SQUATTERMOUTH>
determinative, and the only difference in the ‘spelling' is in the first example, with < twig> instead of < twig: mouth> — the <mouth> portion of which does suggest /r/ of ptr: peter. It seems the scholars have decided the < twig: mouth> sign is a determinative and not part of the spelling of the sound of the word, on the basis that it occurs after the <pair> sign. But was it correct to assume this? There are many instances when scribes did not follow the strict sign-sound order, and not only for honorific (gods, pharoahs first) or graphic (what looks nicest) reasons. The <pair> sign in these examples indicates agency, the do-er of an action or role. Why the scribes chose to put it in front of the <twig> sign is unknown, but it does not really assure that the /r/ in the < twig: mouth> sign was NOT to be pronounced. In fact the first two examples in Table 3, repeated below:
determinative, and the only difference in the ‘spelling' is in the first example, with < twig> instead of < twig: mouth> — the <mouth> portion of which does suggest /r/ of ptr: peter. It seems the scholars have decided the < twig: mouth> sign is a determinative and not part of the spelling of the sound of the word, on the basis that it occurs after the <pair> sign. But was it correct to assume this? There are many instances when scribes did not follow the strict sign-sound order, and not only for honorific (gods, pharoahs first) or graphic (what looks nicest) reasons. The <pair> sign in these examples indicates agency, the do-er of an action or role. Why the scribes chose to put it in front of the <twig> sign is unknown, but it does not really assure that the /r/ in the < twig: mouth> sign was NOT to be pronounced. In fact the first two examples in Table 3, repeated below:
Table 4: peter-i
Consequently to your amateur student of the hieroglyphs, it would seem that the probable correct reading of the peti examples might be peter-i.
Jeremy Steele
Sunday 28 July 2013
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